"Yes, we do ladder transfers," agrees one Google employee. "It usually means a demotion," says one machine learning specialist who formerly worked for Google. Insiders say ladder switches do happen, but that they come with downsides. Especially if you want to make level five on the engineering ladder and you've been climbing a different pole. This is where it seems things can get tough. Most Google ladders only have 10 rungs: Google myth has it that level 11 was created just to accommodate Dean and Ghemawat.īut what happens if you're just an average Googler trying to make levels five and six? And if you're at level 11 ("senior fellow" or "senior VP"), you're in the stratosphere with Google stars like Sanjay Ghemawat and Jeff Dean. By level 10 you're a Google fellow (there are only around 12 of these, so like a GS partner except more rarefied - although known as a "VP" in Google-world).
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By level nine, you're a, "distinguished software engineer" (kind of like an MD).
By level eight, you're a "principal" (kind of like an ED in a bank). Quora does a very good job of describing Google's popular engineering or technical ladder here. Level five is where things start to get serious: this is when you become a "senior software engineer". It turns out that for a company that's supposed to have a flat management system, Google has an awful lot of levels in its hierarchy. We didn't speak to Google for this article, but we did speak to several current and former Google employees.
Engineering pays more at the same level, but because I didn't come in a software engineer, I'm kind of stuck here."
"I'm on the business ladder instead of the engineering ladder and now that I want to swap onto the engineering ladder, I can't. "I'm on the wrong ladder," complains one Google insider.
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